Comments on Mike Brown's Planets: The Redemption of Snow White (Part 3 of 3)
Since 2007 OR10 was given a female nickname, Snow ...Since 2007 OR10 was given a female nickname, Snow White, and since there are not many planets with female names why not give it a female name. I would suggest Meg or Lillah.
I really think you should be the one to...Dr. Brown,<br />I really think you should be the one to name 2007 OR10. However, I have heard that the IAU will leave it up to the public in 2017. If this happens could you post the link?<br />Thanks,<br />Cliff
"Thanatos" - new name of this object !"Thanatos" - new name of this object !
Rose RedRose Red
Sandraudiga - "She who dyes the sand red"...Sandraudiga - "She who dyes the sand red" Obscure reference from Nordic Mythology found on stone in Netherlands. See Nordisk Familjebok (1916). http://runeberg.org/nfcd/0355.html <br />Name connects themes of temperature and color. It maintains the sense of obscurity of the object and it preserves the object's "femininity".
I wonder what this will be named! What about Agni...I wonder what this will be named! What about Agni, after the Hindu God of fire, because of his connection between the earth and the distant heavens? Or after the Celtic Goddess Brigid, as she was connected to elevation, and this body gets so very distant from the earth? <br />
Sweetness Ofthemists Brettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9094742788006644220.post-70041925811507064012013-07-28T18_11_51.019-07_002013-07-28T18_11_51.019-07_00
As a British woman, I'd love it if you named i...As a British woman, I'd love it if you named it after a character from British mythology! The characters of our Arthurian legends, were originally, the gods and goddesses of our land, and out of these, it occurs to me that Dindrane, "the Grail heroine", could fit 2007 OR10 appropriately. She willingly gave up her blood and sacrificed her life, in order to cure a leprous lady, and so enabled her Knight companions to obtain the Grail. OR10's redness could stand for her blood, and it's original impression of whiteness, for the leprous lady, (leprosy being traditionally, biblically, connected with whiteness).<br />link: http://graillegends.blogspot.co.uk/<br />
Sweetness Ofthemists Brettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9094742788006644220.post-45161744483967974942013-05-24T18_46_55.298-07_002013-05-24T18_46_55.298-07_00
Or Aether, in Greek mythology the father of Uranus...Or Aether, in Greek mythology the father of Uranus, because he was the God of the "upper air", which would be appropriate for 2007 OR10 because of it's extreme distance?
If no other name comes to mind, what about Caelus ...If no other name comes to mind, what about Caelus - which just means the sky, the heavens - the Roman god equivalent to Uranus.
what about one of the siblings of Eris? 2007 OR10...what about one of the siblings of Eris? 2007 OR10 has an orbit similar to Eris - perhaps a name of one of her siblings would be appropriate. Keres comes to mind, plucking dying soldiers from the field.. bloodied, like the redness of 2007 OR10. <br /><br />But honestly, you have done sucha great job naming your discoveries, I am sure you will come up with a good name for this one too. <br /><br />Best of luck to you, especially in the next 3 years before new horizons does itʻs flyby of the Pluto system. I hope it can then be confirmed Pluto is number 3 of the TNO/KBOs
well Salacia has been used, so what about Neptune&...well Salacia has been used, so what about Neptune's other paredrae, Venilia?
A name suggestion follows, obscure, but interestin...A name suggestion follows, obscure, but interesting, and from the land whence comes the story of Snow White:<br /><br />Svantevit? God of war & prosperity, who rode a white horse (one of the god's names was Beli, meaning 'shining/bright white') that bore him into the fray & brought back the spoils of time itself: messages from the future, aka divination. His worship may be best known for the temple dedicated to him on the German isle of Rugen, whose original inhabitants, the Rujani, gave Rugen the earliest form of its name, Rujan. The name meant 'Red Island.' Svantevit had four faces, each regarding one of the four cardinal points of the compass (one meaning of his name is 'all-seeing'), each a different color: white (facing north toward the White Sea), red (Red Ruthenia, aka western Ukraine), black (Black Sea), green (Zelena Ukraina, Ukraine of the East). Every year, his horn of plenty was filled to overflowing with mead, signifying his role as the source of abundance. There were once claims this god was actually a fake & cobbled together from unrelated stories and materials and hearsay, though later research verified the Catholic Church had replaced him with St. Vitus, suggesting very strongly the god had genuinely existed and been an object of worship, after all.<br /><br />And, finally, Svantevit was also known as 'Morning-star' or 'Light of the Dawn.'<br /><br /><br />cryovulcanism = horn brimming with mead<br />water ice = island surrounded by water<br />red methane frost = Rugen, the Red Island<br />5th brightest = morning-bright<br />snowy white @ 1st look = white horse of victory & knowledge<br />veil of mystery rent by FIRE = oracle (chief priest & sacred horse)<br />dubious status of 2007 OR10 = confusing history of Svantevit<br />story 4.5 billion years old = murky history of the god
I think Sutekh sounds spot on/precisely appropriat...I think Sutekh sounds spot on/precisely appropriate! <br /><br />I was going to say, why not name it Prometheus - I think humankind is really in need of with the energies of that god, speaking as an astrologer.
I would be honoured if you would consider my ...Sir,<br />I would be honoured if you would consider my suggested name for this as yet anonymous dwarf planet: Sutekh.<br /><br />Sutekh is another name for the Egyptian god of chaos, storms, the night and the desert, Set. No asteroids or other celestial bodies are yet named after this mythological figure. However, he is by no means a minor character. He was worshipped as a benevolent deity by the Northern Egyptians, before the unification of Egypt resulted in his demonisation by the Southern Egyptians.<br /><br />Now we come to my main reasons for 'Snow White''s new name. Sutekh too was associated with the colour red, to the extent that he was known as the ‘Red Lord’, and redheads became associated with him. “Snow White”’s descent from dynamism to stasis reflects Sutekh’s demonisation from a popular god into a deity of darkness. Also, lest we forget, he is a god from the nation of Egypt, which borders the Red Sea, aptly for the red waters of 2007 OR10.<br /><br />Therefore, I implore you to consider the name 225088 Sutekh for ‘Snow White’, as I believe it would be an interesting and fitting name.
Hi Mike,what in theory minimum albedo of TNO -3%,4...Hi Mike,what in theory minimum albedo of TNO -3%,4%?<br />2002 TC302 - 2-3%, 4%, 5,1%?
Any suggestions on a name for 'Snow White'...Any suggestions on a name for 'Snow White'...?
Ha ha! Nope: no moon on Snow White. We've look...Ha ha! Nope: no moon on Snow White. We've looked pretty hard w/HST two different times and nothing seems to be there.
"Hubble Space Telescope, which is an added fu..."Hubble Space Telescope, which is an added fun part of the story"<br /><br />Hmm... me thinks someone knows whether or not 2007 OR10 has a moon.
Awesome little world. Can't wait for more obse...Awesome little world. Can't wait for more observations and results. <br /><br />Thanks Mr. Brown!
How about Huitzilopochtli? He's a creation de...How about Huitzilopochtli? He's a creation deity, so that fits the naming convention, and being a god of war and human sacrifice, it seems to be a good name for a red object. Have they started naming objects after Aztec deities yet?
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It is intriguing that even relatively small terres...It is intriguing that even relatively small terrestrial bodies could have hydrological cycles, liquid oceans, cryovulcanism and atmospheres. It would seem that the smaller you get, the less interesting you get; but there is some evidence to the contrary because one would expect less from a small world (no disrespect given to the popular Disneyland ride), but when a small world throws you a curve ball, it becomes interesting. <br /><br />Perhaps I could offer a remotely possible explanation for the curiously red, remote world; maybe algae like the red variety that grows in Antarctica, that turns snow and ice a bright red, could exist on other worlds such as Snow White. <br /><br />Could you wrap your mind around the possibility that life exists on other worlds? <br /><br />I like how Mr. Brown surreptitiously mentions 2003 AZ84 and leaves out its moon, hummm, but that is for another discussion for another day; may the spotlight shine brightly on Snow White aka Little Red Riding Hood and Cherry Snow Cone, today.
Wikipedia modifies a 2006 NASA image and then calt...Wikipedia modifies a <a href="http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/archive/releases/2006/16/image/d/" rel="nofollow">2006 NASA image</a> and then <a href="http://media.caltech.edu/press_releases/13445" rel="nofollow">caltech</a> sources it as NASA. I guess we can call that coming <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:EightTNOs.png" rel="nofollow">full circle</a>.<br /><br />-- Kevin Heider
Wow. Thank you for the fascinating and informative...Wow. Thank you for the fascinating and informative trilogy. I love keeping up with the latest in the Kuiper belt--and you tell it so well! If the methane hypothesis is correct "Snow Red" is not too far off a literal description. Splatters of red methane on snow. It's a cherry snow-cone.
As for a name: "Orten" has a nice ring t...As for a name: "Orten" has a nice ring to it.
Guess I should clarify... narrow down the error on...Guess I should clarify... narrow down the error on planet radii